Curse

Rocky Raccoon · Feb 28, 2007, 08:28 PM // 20:28

You should act like you are in a public place, for you are. If that is how these people act in everyday life they have a serious problem. Just because you are in a virtual world doesn't mean you can throw all civility out the door. Maybe they should have a "Guild Wars for Ignorant People" version so they can all get together.

Enko · Feb 28, 2007, 08:56 PM // 20:56

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The biggest problem ANet would have with GM's is the number of districts they would have to cover as well as the number of regions...it could end up being a full time job for a number of people!!!

Just the idea that there might be GMs in the game that can silence or temp ban you for spamming would keep spam down. We don't need 100% scanning just that there's a chance to get caught. As it is now, there's no control so people just don't care about spamming, scamming, or trying to sell gold.

Someone in my guild recently tried to sell gold or trade it for RS money. told him to knock it off since it was against the EULA and he responded with disbelief that someone actually complained but said he didn't care anyways since no one else had ever said anything (apparently didn't think it was against the rules or thought that as long as he didn't get caught, it would be fine). Ended up kicking the guy from the guild.

thelegendozelda · Feb 28, 2007, 09:19 PM // 21:19

Yea and the day a GM shove's a suck down your throat, you'll bitch and whine cause there is GM's

Enko · Feb 28, 2007, 09:28 PM // 21:28

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Originally Posted by thelegendozelda

Yea and the day a GM shove's a suck down your throat, you'll bitch and whine cause there is GM's

If done correctly, they won't be doing that unless you deserve it.

compare how things are done in WoW and CoH.

WoW: anyone reports you, its pretty much an automatic warning. For repeat offenders, 3 day ban, and eventually perma ban

Don't like this way since false reporting is a problem.

CoH: Anyone makes a report, GMs investigate situation and if it can be shown that the person was intentionally causing problems, they can get banned.

Like this way since the people who really are causing problems are stopped.

Currently in GW, there's not really any moderation at all beyond the suspected banning of scammers and mass banning of botters. This doesn't really help against spammers, or people spreading hate messages.

Kook~NBK~ · Feb 28, 2007, 10:03 PM // 22:03

A little self-policing goes a long way. I keep all the chat channels open where ever I go, and if I'm spending any amount of time in town, I don't hesitate to let someone know that their spam is inappropriate. But, I try to do it in a courteous way.

Spammer: Selling a super-neato thingie for 100k + 25 ectos
Spammer: Selling a super-neato thingie for 100k + 25 ectos
Me: No, you are NOT selling a super-neato thingie. You are Spamming, please stop.

And they usually do!

The moral of the story is this: If you've got a problem with the way someone is acting, politely let them know of their discretion.

If they're flat out jerks, politely let them know that being one can possibly result in their account being banned. If they persist, thank them for the SS - it's amazing how fast that shuts them up.

Ensign · Feb 28, 2007, 10:04 PM // 22:04

GMs are one of the things a monthly fee pays for.

Peace,
-CxE

cutaholeinabox · Feb 28, 2007, 10:15 PM // 22:15

We really need an auction house to get rid of the spamming. Not only will it get rid of the spamming, but you can actually quickly and efficiently look for the item(s) you are looking for and buy them without trying to advertise you're buying something admist the flood which takes a VERY LONG time.

It doesn't have to be fancy or complicated, it can just be as basic as talking to the auction house NPC, and searching what item you want to buy, and it showing a list of people selling that particular item with the price they want for it. I can't see any visible flaws to having an auction house in this game.

Iscana · Feb 28, 2007, 10:58 PM // 22:58

I'm suprised how many people posted on this topic, and how many people feel a little bit the same. I thought it would turn into a flame war, but instead it turned into a nice topic. Thanks for that.

I think if everyone who loves GW just do a little Moderating work with a nice voice and act they could be someone from Anet. We could deal in a nice time span with certain problems. Like I was being able to keep Lions Arch district 1 for 1 hour quite clean, I think if a bunch of people while they are helping out others or enjoy GW and see people spamming or doing another bad things, just give them suggestions what would be better to do. Maybe this way we can introduce a bit GW moderating and let the gamers do the rest like the way they picked up the WTS and WTB spamming when they started playing GW.

I refered a lot of spammer towards the search window, and it was really intresting how many people started to use it in just 1 hour. I said that more people look at the search function then you might think, and suddenly 30 minutes later I saw a huge list on it and people chatting it worked quite well. Ofcourse an auction house would be better and spamming WTS and WTB does have sometimes more effect, but well it was a start.

The same for another things that should need improvement to get back the social stuff again. Maybe it won't work for the first weeks or months, but if everyone puts a little effort in it, maybe we can less certain bad habbits ingame.

Maybe Anet should introduce a "Weekend of kindness" event, where people do all kind of good things and actually get rewards for it. XD
About more GM's, I think that would help a bit, because when I wisper certain people and tell them for example: not to spam that much, they say: "Oooh, what are you gonna do then?" And I think having a GM behind your name would actually make them say: "NP, sorry for that". Maybe Anet should recruite gamers to be GM's or something, like the way they hired a few gamers to develope and test GW.

Antheus · Feb 28, 2007, 11:55 PM // 23:55

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Originally Posted by {BHC}KingWarman88

Hey,

Deal with it or Leave. I don't like how People act on BF2 or on AA, but I deal with it.. I don't like it how people act on Total War Mutiplayer, but I just play it once a week and deal with it..

Just Deal with it or Leave. Put up or shutup. harsh yes, but true..

Hey, "I don't care" post.

Much of behaviour in game is in violation of RoC, and is detriminial to other people's gameplay.

Leeching, scamming, prophanity, spamming - all of these are in violation of RoC. But because of lack of moderation, or even just fear of moderation, nobody cares about these rules.

If someone dislikes the gameplay, they should leave. If someone dislikes the behaviour of others, when RoC supposedly guarantees such behavious shouldn't occur, then it's not fine.

Omega X · Mar 01, 2007, 12:50 AM // 00:50

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Originally Posted by Gli

I think guilds and alliances have totally monopolized the social aspect of the game. Speaking for myself, I only ever have the Team and Guild chat modes enabled. Team for when talk involves the actual play our party is engaged in, and; Guild for general banter. (I do, occasionally, check the trade channel.) I'm afraid I might not be alone in this.

You are spot on. I'm the exact same way. Local/Trade chat is now a cesspool of sewage in the form of words. Its either some lame conversation where flames are flung everywhere or some spammer trying to sell something that no one wants.

I know that people say "Tolerate it or leave" but they failed to see the other option. The option where you find a good guild/alliance and turn that garbage off.

People shouldn't have to deal with that crap ever. ESPECIALLY in a game.

Zinger314 · Mar 01, 2007, 12:52 AM // 00:52

People: Sucking since 50,000,000 BC. Deal with it.

As Ensign said, there's not enough money for ArenaNet to hold a well-staffed GM team. Look at how long it took for the website to be up-to-par...ArenaNet's appears to be on too strict a budget.

Tempy · Mar 01, 2007, 01:10 AM // 01:10

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Originally Posted by ZenRgy

You put too much effort into being nice.

That is by far the saddest thing I have every read!!!!

Welcome to narcissistic paradise...aka Guild Wars. And yet people wonder why the PUG is dying.

Evilsod · Mar 01, 2007, 01:19 AM // 01:19

This is what guilds and alliances were invented for. You can have a select amount of people you can invite with you to places, do missions, etc... Whom you know aren't gonna be utter twats or the guild leader would've kicked them by now.

Spammers are just annoying. Would be nice if the ignore list blocked local chat, i could've sworn it did at one time... now it doesn't seem to work anymore :S

Zinger314 · Mar 01, 2007, 01:21 AM // 01:21

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Originally Posted by Tempy

Welcome to narcissistic paradise...aka the internet.

Fixed that for ya.

Racthoh · Mar 01, 2007, 01:29 AM // 01:29

I'd love to run around in-game tossing out bans for all of that spam; do it enough here on Guru afterall. Give me something to do while waiting for favor.

The Ernada · Mar 01, 2007, 01:29 AM // 01:29

Heh. Some of the people in this thread are prime examples of what's wrong with the GW community which is by far the worst I've seen in an MMO. But yeah GW is free and GMs cost money. I just hope you already have friends and guildies that you can play with.

ZenRgy · Mar 01, 2007, 01:33 AM // 01:33

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Originally Posted by Tempy

That is by far the saddest thing I have every read!!!!

Welcome to narcissistic paradise...aka Guild Wars. And yet people wonder why the PUG is dying.

PUGs were always dead. Always.

Don Zardeone · Mar 01, 2007, 02:16 AM // 02:16

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Originally Posted by cutaholeinabox

We really need an auction house to get rid of the spamming. Not only will it get rid of the spamming,....

WTS Uber Sword of Superiour Imbalance 100k+500E.....1

will become:

WTS Uber Sword of Superiour Imbalance 100k+500E....CHECK AUCTION HOUSE.1
WTS Uber Sword of Superiour Imbalance 100k+500E....CHECK AUCTION HOUSE.2

Halmyr · Mar 01, 2007, 03:47 AM // 03:47

We would't need gm's 24/7

I believe that any one at anet should be able to go into a district, relase a polite message about not unsing the all channel for spmming, selling, and buying ( in a nice blue/green/red colored letters that no one can hide).

Any one who ignores this cannot use the all channel for 24 hours.

Do this one or twice a day during peek times in busy towns, that could reduce spamming alot without using a lot of ressource.

Well thats my opinion anyways.

The Herbalizer · Mar 01, 2007, 04:02 AM // 04:02

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Originally Posted by Enko

Just the idea that there might be GMs in the game that can silence or temp ban you for spamming would keep spam down. We don't need 100% scanning just that there's a chance to get caught. As it is now, there's no control so people just don't care about spamming, scamming, or trying to sell gold.

Someone in my guild recently tried to sell gold or trade it for RS money. told him to knock it off since it was against the EULA and he responded with disbelief that someone actually complained but said he didn't care anyways since no one else had ever said anything (apparently didn't think it was against the rules or thought that as long as he didn't get caught, it would be fine). Ended up kicking the guy from the guild.

You are aware that trading one games items for guild wars items is not against the eula? It was dicussed yesterday and the wording suggests that it is not. Looks like you kicked someone when they were innocent. If I kicked every guildie who broke the eula and I reported every friend who broke it I would #1 have a very small guide and #2 have very few friends.

gw is free so they cannot afford tons of gms. in wow it is much nicer community but you pay for extra staffs and gms to control population.